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		<title>By: YouSTFU (Plz STFU)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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@JeremyMeyers LOVED the &#039;Twitter: It&#039;s just a Website Post&#039; [link to post] - Mind if I add some of your commentary on YouSTFU.com ??&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://chatcatcher.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Posted using Chat Catcher&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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@JeremyMeyers LOVED the &#8216;Twitter: It&#8217;s just a Website Post&#8217; [link to post] &#8211; Mind if I add some of your commentary on YouSTFU.com ??</p>
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		<title>By: mktgdouchebag (Marketing Douchebag)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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Just discovered @jeremymeyers. &quot;Just b/c a co...doesn’t do something according to your own arbitrary rules...&quot; [link to post]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://chatcatcher.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Posted using Chat Catcher&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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Just discovered @jeremymeyers. &#8220;Just b/c a co&#8230;doesn’t do something according to your own arbitrary rules&#8230;&#8221; [link to post]</p>
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		<title>By: ikepigott (Ike Pigott)</title>
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		<dc:creator>ikepigott (Ike Pigott)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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@JeremyMeyers - Bingo. My point on this is that it&#039;s the network effect that&#039;s bringing change - not the technology that enables it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - Posted using Chat Catcher </description>
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@JeremyMeyers &#8211; Bingo. My point on this is that it&#8217;s the network effect that&#8217;s bringing change &#8211; not the technology that enables it.</p>
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		<title>By: C.B. Whittemore</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, I agree completely. I mentally run away from the people you describe. Their behavior highlights that they just don&#039;t get all that is happening in the marketplace.  Thanks, too, for the link to Beth&#039;s post.  CB</description>
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		<title>By: David Hollis</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog post and I agree the self congratulatory flaggellation is so 2008 lol</description>
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		<title>By: Daria Steigman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daria Steigman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeremy,

Great post, and clearly the counterbalance to Beth&#039;s &quot;Social Media Leeches&quot; post. I love your comment about the &quot;ego-fed&quot; in this space, although no different than anywhere else (it&#039;s just that the technology makes it more visible). And I&#039;d so like people to write on the blackboard 100 times: it&#039;s not all about social media. 

I have to say that I don&#039;t mind people tweeting from conferences; I tend to tune it out most of the time unless it&#039;s really interesting--and I have the time to spend watching a feed for hours on end. (As if...) But I do like the nuggets of wisdom when I see them pass by; after all, I&#039;m selecting followers who offer me value in one form or another.

By the way, I think you might have better said that &quot;talking is the new listening.&quot;

Best,
Daria
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<p>Great post, and clearly the counterbalance to Beth&#8217;s &#8220;Social Media Leeches&#8221; post. I love your comment about the &#8220;ego-fed&#8221; in this space, although no different than anywhere else (it&#8217;s just that the technology makes it more visible). And I&#8217;d so like people to write on the blackboard 100 times: it&#8217;s not all about social media. </p>
<p>I have to say that I don&#8217;t mind people tweeting from conferences; I tend to tune it out most of the time unless it&#8217;s really interesting&#8211;and I have the time to spend watching a feed for hours on end. (As if&#8230;) But I do like the nuggets of wisdom when I see them pass by; after all, I&#8217;m selecting followers who offer me value in one form or another.</p>
<p>By the way, I think you might have better said that &#8220;talking is the new listening.&#8221;</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Daria<br />
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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@jeremymeyers you are so right though. social media gurus: show us YOUR case studies or shut up :>)  [link to post]</p>
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Social Media People need to STFU and GBTW too. | Jeremy Meyers dot com &#8211; Good read with some excellent points. [link to post]</p>
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Social Media People need to STFU and GBTW too. &#124; Jeremy Meyers dot com - STFU and GBTW.  And no, your job isn’t building your personal brand. [link to post]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - Posted using Chat Catcher </description>
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Social Media People need to STFU and GBTW too. | Jeremy Meyers dot com &#8211; STFU and GBTW.  And no, your job isn’t building your personal brand. [link to post]</p>
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Enjoying #rants today! RT @blogworld: RT @KeithBurtis: Rant by @JeremyMeyers -what he&#039;d call &quot;Social Media Douchebags!&quot;[link to post]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - Posted using Chat Catcher </description>
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Enjoying #rants today! RT @blogworld: RT @KeithBurtis: Rant by @JeremyMeyers -what he&#8217;d call &#8220;Social Media Douchebags!&#8221;[link to post]</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Beth Harte</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;DO something. If you can’t cite specific examples of ways you’ve used stuff you’re talking about to help a company you work for? Shut up.  You know what helps people to learn? Show, don’t tell.&quot;

Most people get paid for this...Regardless of what most think this is about business.

As for telling companies what&#039;s right or wrong, I am in totally agreement with you there. It&#039;s all speculation if you aren&#039;t on the inside. That&#039;s why I shared Ramon DeLeon&#039;s (Domino&#039;s Chicago) story...to counter-balance everyone going after Dominos.

Jeremy, the beauty of social media is that if you don&#039;t like what you are hearing, chose new people to follow that don&#039;t anger you and recreate your social environment...they choice is yours. If social media folks provide little value to you stop following them. It&#039;s really that simple.
.-= Beth Harte&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheHarteOfMarketing/~3/bvMRHpWPfVo/the-social-media-leech.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Social Media Leech&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;DO something. If you can’t cite specific examples of ways you’ve used stuff you’re talking about to help a company you work for? Shut up.  You know what helps people to learn? Show, don’t tell.&#8221;</p>
<p>Most people get paid for this&#8230;Regardless of what most think this is about business.</p>
<p>As for telling companies what&#8217;s right or wrong, I am in totally agreement with you there. It&#8217;s all speculation if you aren&#8217;t on the inside. That&#8217;s why I shared Ramon DeLeon&#8217;s (Domino&#8217;s Chicago) story&#8230;to counter-balance everyone going after Dominos.</p>
<p>Jeremy, the beauty of social media is that if you don&#8217;t like what you are hearing, chose new people to follow that don&#8217;t anger you and recreate your social environment&#8230;they choice is yours. If social media folks provide little value to you stop following them. It&#8217;s really that simple.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Beth Harte&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheHarteOfMarketing/~3/bvMRHpWPfVo/the-social-media-leech.html" rel="nofollow">The Social Media Leech</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.jeremymeyers.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Jeremy. There are far too many people out there in/famous for nothing other than being popular in the interweb.</description>
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		<title>By: Lauren Fernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren Fernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy -

Sure, the tone can be pretty bad on some of those posts. When I call something a mishap, it&#039;s because the company did not respond in time and start backpedaling. A lot of times, it can be detrimental for a small company. Many are not huge brands, as are many agencies. I think a lot of times, the bad tone comes across from those that are gleeful to point out others&#039; mistakes and not take responsibility for their own.

I think conference specific feeds are great for my organization - because in an association, our members are first. It&#039;s not about how much money we make. It&#039;s about retention. The events are for them - its not for our bank account.
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<p>Sure, the tone can be pretty bad on some of those posts. When I call something a mishap, it&#8217;s because the company did not respond in time and start backpedaling. A lot of times, it can be detrimental for a small company. Many are not huge brands, as are many agencies. I think a lot of times, the bad tone comes across from those that are gleeful to point out others&#8217; mistakes and not take responsibility for their own.</p>
<p>I think conference specific feeds are great for my organization &#8211; because in an association, our members are first. It&#8217;s not about how much money we make. It&#8217;s about retention. The events are for them &#8211; its not for our bank account.<br />
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		<dc:creator>Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve been extra cranky lately, no?

I share some of your frustrations here, but I&#039;d argue that it&#039;s partly your own fault. Why are you following 2,000+ people? Why are you interacting with people who are clearly using Twitter as an enhanced narrowcasting medium to boost their own &quot;credibility&quot;?

I&#039;ve found Twitter to be a great resource to connect with smart people in publishing and marketing, and I aggressively manage who I&#039;m following and who follows me. I&#039;ve dropped most of the so-called &quot;gurus&quot; because their simple-minded &quot;Duh&quot; statements that get retweeted a million times are annoying. I unfollowed Beth Harte after her anti-social rant about people critiquing conference tweets. I block every Twitter scammer I can identify that follows me hoping for the auto-follow.

The beauty (and limitation) of Twitter is that it&#039;s ultimately what YOU make of it. YOU control the quality of information that enters your stream. Perhaps it&#039;s time for a stronger filter?
.-= Guy LeCharles Gonzalez&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/loudpoet/~3/UKScNXNbKyg/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Not Every Conversation is Worth Having&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
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<p>I share some of your frustrations here, but I&#8217;d argue that it&#8217;s partly your own fault. Why are you following 2,000+ people? Why are you interacting with people who are clearly using Twitter as an enhanced narrowcasting medium to boost their own &#8220;credibility&#8221;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found Twitter to be a great resource to connect with smart people in publishing and marketing, and I aggressively manage who I&#8217;m following and who follows me. I&#8217;ve dropped most of the so-called &#8220;gurus&#8221; because their simple-minded &#8220;Duh&#8221; statements that get retweeted a million times are annoying. I unfollowed Beth Harte after her anti-social rant about people critiquing conference tweets. I block every Twitter scammer I can identify that follows me hoping for the auto-follow.</p>
<p>The beauty (and limitation) of Twitter is that it&#8217;s ultimately what YOU make of it. YOU control the quality of information that enters your stream. Perhaps it&#8217;s time for a stronger filter?<br />
<span class="cluv"> Guy LeCharles Gonzalez&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/loudpoet/~3/UKScNXNbKyg/" rel="nofollow">Not Every Conversation is Worth Having</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.jeremymeyers.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren-

I absolutely don&#039;t have a problem with PR challenges being used as case studies.  What I do have a problem with is the tone and gratuitous hyperbole of the commentary being thrown about in assorted blog posts.  A single PR issue does not mean DISASTER for a company.  They can learn just like any other person or group can, and chances are have recovered from worse.

Conference tweets sent from dedicated accounts are fine (although I still argue that if you&#039;re tweeting what is being said on stage from a conference, you&#039;re wasting your money), its the sudden influx of &#039;xyz says twitter means this #conferencehashtag&#039; that has nothing to do with why I choose to interact with you.  Tell me ABOUT what happened, dont just repeat it.  You&#039;re not a parrot.</description>
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<p>I absolutely don&#8217;t have a problem with PR challenges being used as case studies.  What I do have a problem with is the tone and gratuitous hyperbole of the commentary being thrown about in assorted blog posts.  A single PR issue does not mean DISASTER for a company.  They can learn just like any other person or group can, and chances are have recovered from worse.</p>
<p>Conference tweets sent from dedicated accounts are fine (although I still argue that if you&#8217;re tweeting what is being said on stage from a conference, you&#8217;re wasting your money), its the sudden influx of &#8216;xyz says twitter means this #conferencehashtag&#8217; that has nothing to do with why I choose to interact with you.  Tell me ABOUT what happened, dont just repeat it.  You&#8217;re not a parrot.</p>
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